The Malliard Report Talks with Thomas Fusco

“Move the Field Forward.”

Thomas P. Fusco

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Hi Jim,

Thanks for having me as a guest on your show. Although we didn’t have the time to get into many of the details of my model of “paranormal mechanics” explained in my book Behind The Cosmic Veil (www.cosmicveil.com), we had the opportunity to discuss a number of topics relating to the field of paranormal research. These were of sufficient importance for me to write a brief summary of them for your website.

First is that science is the inevitable and inescapable destination of all paranormal research. The path will be the same as it was for astrology, which eventually evolved into mainstream astronomy from the cumulative effect of scientific findings and observations over a long period of time. However, there are many factions currently within the paranormal community, each with their own goals and agendas, some of which are not conducive to a scientific perspective. The conflict between these motives is what hinders and even subverts scientific advancement. While some fully embrace scientific examination of the paranormal, others are dead-set opposed. For example, some who emphasize the mystical experience, as well as those whom you might call the ‘thrill-seekers’, see scientific analysis of paranormal phenomena as raining on their parade. I’ve actually had a few of these assert dogmatically to me that scientific understanding of the paranormal is impossible, and openly criticize and even mock any attempt to do so. But the real motivation behind this position is that science threatens to de-mystify the paranormal. Understanding the workings of a thing diminishes its thrill value and magical qualities. No one riding a roller coaster and screaming in delightful fright wants the downer of contemplating the physics of the machine to get in the way of the fun. Paranormal ‘entertainers’ can fall under the same category—no mystique, no entertainment value. Then there is what you might call the ‘ugly bug’ syndrome—it’s the kid that brings an ugly bug or some other crawly creature inside to show Mom, who then recoils and squirms while demanding the disgusting thing be taken out of the house. It gives the child a sense of power and prestige—the power over Mom to scare her, and the prestige of wielding something that intimidates the establishment. How delightful! Now substitute the general public for Mom. Then look for a paranormal team’s website that has the flying bats, spooky background music, gothic clothing and hairstyle, black fingernail polish, flashlights under the chin in their photos, Satanic tattoos and the like—you just found the kid with the ugly bug. And let’s not even talk about the fraudsters, whom everyone condemns. Clearly, scientific advances in deciphering the paranormal pose a direct threat to the gratification sought by the thrill seekers, entertainers and ugly buggers.

I hear teams speak of paranormal ‘unity’ from time to time. But with extreme conflicts like the one above among the paranormal community itself, there’s little chance of such unity coming from within. I believe unity will only come from the outside, that is, from the general public eventually embracing one of the paranormal factions as the mainstream representation of the field. If you question the power of the public to establish a norm, then think about the present success enjoyed by all those paranormal TV shows. Do you think they’d still be on the air if they were being watched and supported solely by the relatively small paranormal community? Even the fervent pleas of the trekkies could not keep Star Trek: Enterprise on the air. But as it stands now, the public generally lumps paranormal investigation into a single perception. To them, it’s all “those weird people who investigate all that spooky stuff,” and/or an entertaining curiosity. They do not make the distinctions between the kinds of opposing approaches recognized within the community, because in the public eye, all of it is weirdness. Additionally, the public standard for how a paranormal investigation should be conducted has become what they see on TV. We are aware of how many paranormal teams have sprung up following the procedures and methods seen on the TV shows. Why are they imitating these shows? Not because of any internal standards established by the paranormal community at large, but because the TV model is what has been embraced by the viewing public as the mainstream norm, and so that approach is what the public expects of them. Still think it’s not the external public perception that will be the driving force that helps establish what constitutes ‘mainstream’ in the paranormal field? Think again.

But what happens when the novelty wears off and all the paranormal TV shows go away? We all know that day is coming. What happens when the viewing public grows weary of watching ‘televestigators’ run around dark buildings to seek out paranormal phenomena, which they then dangle in front of the camera like a display in some macabre freak show? How many EVPs will the public listen to before fatigue and boredom set in? As mentioned before, these shows will not survive on the patronage of the paranormal community alone. Even now within the community, we see comments on paranormal forums telling what programs various forum members refuse to watch. The public standard for what constitutes ‘mainstream’ paranormal will no longer be the entertainment value of watching investigators run around haunted houses. What new development could then rekindle the public interest and so help establish what will be accepted as the standard of this discipline?

Science. And the public’s embracement of it.

What caused astronomy to overcome astrology as the mainstream approach to interpreting the cosmos was not only the strength of its science, but more importantly the public’s acceptance of astronomy as the standard by which to reckon the heavens. For the most part, science has replaced superstition, folklore and myth as the driving influence in society, the latter having been relegated to the role of entertainment and diversion. When the current public fascination with the paranormal fad wanes, only science will be able to pick up the torch and carry it back into the public conscience. And since science is not a fad, it alone has the power to propel paranormal research to a place of permanence within the framework of mainstream thought. Science is the only means that is capable of offering validated proofs for the paranormal effect. Only then will the paranormal field be empowered to form a mainstream association and begin to set sound, disciplinary standards. Those groups that do not follow these standards will run the risk of not being recognized as legitimate by the public—they will be marginalized, ignored as rogues and even scorned. Bad news for the entertainers, thrill seekers and ugly-buggers—good news for the rest of humanity. They will be pushed out to the fringe, while those carrying the banner of science within an organized and standardized professional association will occupy the core and enjoy the benefits of legitimacy. This day too is coming. Remember that you read it here first.

The only barrier holding back this new age of paranormal research, legitimacy and unity has been the lack of a strong theoretical model for the workings of these phenomena and the scientific experiments to support it. For the first time in history, this barrier has finally been breached with the experiments of scientist David Rountree (www.spinvestigations.org) and my theory of supergeometrics. Our respective work of has finally given us this foundation that researchers have been seeking for so long. David and I first met on a radio interview back in February 2011. On comparing notes, we found that supergeometric theory predicts the very findings obtained by David through his highly advanced experiments designed according to sound, established scientific standards. This historic event is unprecedented, and places us in a unique position to eventually submit the first scientific paper on paranormal mechanics to the scientific establishment. This Dark Age where the field of science is free to simply ignore paranormal phenomena will finally be at an end. The future is now in sight, and the path that follows will serve to bring the field of paranormal research into mainstream science (both in the public consciousness and in the field of physics itself) while pushing the anti-scientific factions in the paranormal community to the fringes, just as it did with astrology. We are finally standing on the precipice of the legitimacy that will pave the way to a new paradigm of paranormal science in the 21st century.

Why is all this so important? Everything that is observable and measurable is physical. Everything that is physical behaves according to the laws and principles that govern the physical universe. We all know that there is still much we are learning about those laws and principles. The study of everything that is physical falls under the science of physics. Are you able to see and even photograph an apparition? Then the effects that allow it to be observable and recordable are physical. Can you hear and record a disembodied voice? Then the effect is physical, and subject to the laws that govern all of the physical. The only component in these events making them ‘para’ normal is the cause or the source if you will. But if these causes produce physical effects, then they too will succumb to the scientific method now that we have a viable theoretical model and the experimental findings to support it.

So what does this mean for paranormal investigative teams today? How should we proceed with this new information? First, realize the fantastic ramifications of what you are observing at a paranormal site. Think of some of the wonders that may await us with a deeper understanding of the way the universe is put together—teleportation, time travel, anti-gravity, the free generation of electromagnetic energy and the like. Aren’t these precisely the same kinds of effects you are observing at the sites of paranormal activity? Moreover, you are able to observe these effects in real time, and on a scale and at predictable locations that enable you to study them scientifically. You as investigators are on the front lines of this quest when you are investigating sites where you encounter these events firsthand. The physicists are still on the sidelines, waiting for you to show them why they should get off their imperialistic pompous butts. Realize the importance of your position. It is you who are the pioneers into this frontier, and as such you are representing the rest of humanity in this quest. Because of the kinds of effects observed, there is every reason to anticipate that paranormal research is the field through which some of the deepest mysteries of reality will be cracked for the advancement of humanity. Think about this.

Next, upon realizing the true extent of the importance of your work, you must then decide how to best fulfill this noble commission. I suggest to you that the best way by which to serve humanity in this endeavor is to begin approaching the work in an organized and scientifically relevant manner. This means you first need to adopt investigative techniques that actually establish a legitimate, scientifically valid controlled experimental environment at these sites. One of the remarkable breakthroughs made by David Rountree was in devising the way that any investigative team can accomplish this with a minimum of effort and investment. Now you can really begin to conduct experiments that are truly scientifically relevant, so that you can help the advancement of this field instead of (forgive me) perpetuating the endless loop of jumping from location to location to record more and more of the same kinds of evidence of which we already have reams (running around a house with an EMF meter is no more experimentally relevant than a tourist running around the countryside with a digital camera). David has given us a way to not only break free of this crippling rut, but in doing so also help blaze the trail to a new epoch in paranormal research. When more and more teams adopt these same techniques and begin to record the identical findings that are also consistent with these new theoretical models, the cumulative effect of all these findings—findings that are now truly scientifically relevant—will be that mainstream physics can no longer ignore or deny you. The public will not stand for it.

Then, as Dr. Barry Taff advises (one of early the pioneers who helped lay the foundations of modern paranormal research, and to whom we all owe a debt of gratitude), educate yourself in basic science (if you are not already). You don’t need a doctorate to do this. You only need to learn the real scientific fundamentals about the environmental effects you encounter like electromagnetic fields, thermodynamics, acoustics and meteorology. You’ll then know how EMFs propagate, understand the mechanics of thermal energy, know how acoustical compression waves behave and travel, and how breezes represent the movement of air molecules from areas of high pressure to adjacent areas of low pressure. With such knowledge you will be able to readily envision precisely what is unfolding physically in front of you, and grasp the deeper meaning behind what your instruments are really telling you. Become a legitimate discipline. Become a science. It is the future.

I also suggest that investigators examine their motives to determine exactly why they are involved with the paranormal. Then consider in sincerity if your goals are consistent with finding answers to the paranormal, or if your motives are better served by the perpetuation of its mystery. Remember that one can no longer feign the excuse that science cannot decipher paranormal phenomena and so there’s no reason to try and no value in such effort. The advances mentioned before have already shattered that myth—it can only continue to be clung to by shoving one’s head in the sand. Do you support the scientific advancement of your field, or are you happy working to keep everything exactly the way it is? In short, decide what side you’re on. We are fast approaching the day when neutrality will not be an option. Now that these scientific breakthroughs have been made, the weight of their momentum will take on a life of its own as their publication becomes more widespread, and that momentum will carry us unswervingly into inevitable conflict. Yes, you can still ignore all this for now—that’s what the alchemists and court astrologers did, and they had their time in the sun. But when one stops to truly contemplate the movement of these waters flowing by us today, it’s clear that at some point in the future, a war will be waged within the community for the very soul of the field of paranormal research.

I know it is coming. And I know who will win.

Malliard.com

Show Notes for June 26, 2012

1:03 Welcome to Thomas P Fusco

4:32 Paranormal isnt just the ghosts

9:30 Update on David Rountree and Thomas’s work together

12:03 scientific theory verese theory

14:00 new era in paranormal investigation

17:10 standard process

18:45 The different sides of the paranormal community

37:10 Breaking down tradional values

43:00 Lets talk UFO’s